[Alex Ysoltsev]

the renderer RE-renders, right?

You mean "the render re-renders"?

Can it be possible? Does it make sense? Or is it just an unnecessary complication of the perfectly normal variant of "the renderer renders"?

render
I.
1. A substance similar to stucco but exclusively applied to masonry walls.
2. (computer graphics) An image produced by rendering a model.
3. (obsolete) A surrender.
4. (obsolete) A return; a payment of rent.
5. (obsolete) An account given; a statement.

II.
One who rends.

rend
1. (transitive) To separate into parts with force or sudden violence; to tear asunder; to split; to burst  
Powder rends a rock in blasting.
Lightning rends an oak.
2. (transitive) To part or tear off forcibly; to take away by force.
3. (intransitive) To be rent or torn; to become parted; to separate; to split.
Relationships may rend if tempers flare.
Rending of garments for shiva is a Jewish tradition.

[Jordan~]

A renderer would be one who renders. To render is also a verb, meaning to depict or represent.

[madpawn]

This is a wonderful reading of the song, that does justice to (most) of its references:

http://culturedarm.com/themes-and-refer ... pokanikan/

[Alex Ysoltsev]

This is a wonderful reading of the song, that does justice to (most) of its references:

http://culturedarm.com/themes-and-refer ... pokanikan/

It's pretty much a compilation of the facts and references we've already discovered here (as for me, I have found nothing new there). But as a summarizing article, it's very readable and helpful for those who want to get a fairly full picture of the song.

[Alex Ysoltsev]

"Sapokanikan" is a ragtimey encomium to the forces of remembrance, forgetting, accretion, concealment, amendment, erasure, distortion, canonization, obsolescence and immortality.

That's what we've been talking here about for two years and a half condensed into just two lines by Joanna herself. Beautifully said!
http://www.npr.org/2015/08/20/432854809 ... iesfromnpr

[butterbean]

2015 Year of the Ragtimey Encomium

(Hearing her own words about her work is the best.)

[butterbean]

Any other guesses before Oct. 23rd?

O Lassie, yawn, doll - go out!
Onassie yon dell, go out
All light yonder go out
O Knights of Yondel, go out
Oh, Asiago - go out!
O, ass, Iago, go out!
Alight, see Ohno, go out
Alike, Siana, go out...

????



I feel like this is a pivotal little string of of syllables, it's so frustrating! I guess I'll just walk my cow in the rerounders while I wait for the album.

[claire]

Lately I've been hearing "yon call" in there but who the f even knows. I am looking forward to Friday almost as much for finally getting the answer to this question that has plagued us for three years as for being able to hear all the new songs.

[under a CPell]

The lyrics are known by now! I don't know how to "spoiler" anything on here, so I won't post it yet...
But I seem to recall someone promising to eat a hat when a certain line in Divers would turn out to be what someone else thought it was?

[claire]

Oh yeah that was me! I saw the video yesterday and started googling "edible hats" though I still swear to any deity you please that she sang it different at that show!

[under a CPell]

Make sure to cook it well!

[butterbean]

Seriously, Claire, I am so looking forward to that, too! Finding out the lyrics, that is, not hat-eating.

Oh noes, CPell, is it from liner notes that leaked or was it quoted in some article? I'm not sure if I want to know yet.

Edit: aww, crap, I saw it in a tweet! The internets are not safe! But of course it is so perfect. Maaaaaa-aaaybe I eventually (possibly maybe probably not) could have guessed it if I hadn't (apparently) been pronouncing that word wrongly in my head all my life (when encountering it in print).

[under a CPell]

After Joanna saying in interviews we didn't get all the "clues" in this song yet, I just can't help feeling there may be some reference to a female figure hidden in one of Paulus Potter's paintings. He was especially famous for his depictions of cows, sheep and horses in meadows. But I haven't been able to find anything yet.
His most famous painting "The Young Bull" is in The Maurithuis in The Hague. I visited it a few months ago, mainly to look at Fabricius' "The Goldfinch" (I was reading the Donna Tartt book at the time) and there also was a special exhibition about the study of paintings with the use of modern research techniques like macro X-ray fluorescence analysis, which I found very interesting, even more so because of that theme running through Sapokanikan. The example they used was "Saul and David" by Rembrandt.
I might be totally wrong though!

[Wanbli]

In turn with other daughters,
In dirt in other potter's fields,
Above them parades mark the passing of days
To parks where pale colonades arch in marble and steel.

Where all of the twenty-thousand attending your foot fall

Very wild how they have just unearthed that potter's field in today's news and said hello to the 20K attending the foot fall

19th Century Bones Found Buried In Vault Alongside Washington Square Park

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2015/11/04/ ... 0.facebook

[Alex Ysoltsev]

Some intriguing news about a new case of hidden layers in a painting. This time it's none other than Mona Lisa.
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35031997

[meadowlark]

I watched the video for Sapokonikan all the way through for the first time today (I don't usually watch music videos - and when it first came out I wanted to wait until i'd heard the whole album!). Is Joanna crying at he end? Looks like that to me.

[kev23]

I always thought it looks like that. I read one interview where she mentions that at that point in the video she was about to walk past the first place she and Andy lived in together, so I could see how she would start feeling emotional, especially considering the subject matter of the song.

[faeriechromatic]

Just picked up A Change of Skin, by Carlos Fuentes, which, aside from the resonance in the title with "Only Skin," also addresses the "fall" of indigenous cities to colonial forces, The juxtaposition with & imagination from the Present, reading the clues or their absence in the layers: "Upon the ruins of Cholula are built four hundred churches, their foundations the razed cues, the platforms of the pyramids."