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THIS IS NOT MY TUNE / Bill Callahan / Smog

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Postby ell ess two on 26 Jul 2010, 20:35



Hope he's not a forbidden name around here.

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Smog was perhaps my biggest musical love as an adolescent and certainly one who formed my music palette. Unlike others of his ilk (looking at you, Oldham) he legitimately gets better with each record. With twenty recording years behind him, that's a rare feat!

As I've grown, his music has with me. He remains my favourite vocalist and lyricist. My one constant. And yes, through his association I found Joanna.

Any other Callahan aficionados? :)
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Postby ribbonbows on 26 Jul 2010, 21:38



oh god, isn't "hit the ground runnin'" amazing? i can't remember the name of that album but i really like it. the boy i was dating was a big fan of smog... i had never given him a chance, related to his apparent not-so-nice treatment of cat power, but ah well.


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Postby Zonodon on 26 Jul 2010, 22:53



I've been hearin' gobs about him for years, 'specialy between bein' a fan'a JN and residing in the same town as he, but I've never actually gotten into his music--all the clips and songs I've heard here and there haven't really grabbed me, but given his immense body of work I feel like I must just not have hit his oeuvre in the right place to get inside. Would you be so kind as t' give me some starting places? Other singer-songwriter-y music I like includes that of The Handsome Family, The Angels of Light, and Marissa Nadler, if that's any help.

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Postby ribbonbows on 27 Jul 2010, 00:27



Blanche is good... look up "do you trust me" on youtube

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Postby ell ess two on 27 Jul 2010, 00:57



ribbonbows wrote:oh god, isn't "hit the ground runnin'" amazing? i can't remember the name of that album but i really like it. the boy i was dating was a big fan of smog... i had never given him a chance, related to his apparent not-so-nice treatment of cat power, but ah well.

Yes! It's off Knock Knock.
Aw, I can't allow myself to pay attention to the a-hole factor. I'd cut out the fair majority of some of my most adored artists if I did.

Zonodon wrote:I've been hearin' gobs about him for years, 'specialy between bein' a fan'a JN and residing in the same town as he, but I've never actually gotten into his music--all the clips and songs I've heard here and there haven't really grabbed me, but given his immense body of work I feel like I must just not have hit his oeuvre in the right place to get inside. Would you be so kind as t' give me some starting places? Other singer-songwriter-y music I like includes that of The Handsome Family, The Angels of Light, and Marissa Nadler, if that's any help.

Thankee! <3

Whilst not my favourite, I always find Knock Knock to be the perfect introductory album. You can't go wrong with Dongs of Sevotion either.

If you'd like a mix/playlist of sorts, I'd be happy to sort that out. :)

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Postby Weirdelves on 27 Jul 2010, 01:39



He had me at Dress Sexy for My Funeral.


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Postby claire on 29 Jul 2010, 13:57



Zonodon wrote:I've been hearin' gobs about him for years, 'specialy between bein' a fan'a JN and residing in the same town as he, but I've never actually gotten into his music--all the clips and songs I've heard here and there haven't really grabbed me, but given his immense body of work I feel like I must just not have hit his oeuvre in the right place to get inside. Would you be so kind as t' give me some starting places? Other singer-songwriter-y music I like includes that of The Handsome Family, The Angels of Light, and Marissa Nadler, if that's any help.

Thankee! <3



Knock Knock is definitely a good place to start. I started with A River Ain't Too Much To Love, and it took a while but it eventually became one of my top five all time favorite albums.


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Postby Cosmia on 29 Jul 2010, 14:45



I'll go listen.

I'm not sure if I like. I should, I like early will oldham, but I'm not sure if I like his voice. A bit talky.


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Postby elainemonk on 05 Aug 2010, 21:46



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Has anyone read his new book? I just ordered it.


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Postby ell ess two on 05 Aug 2010, 23:34



Cosmia wrote:I'm not sure if I like. I should, I like early will oldham, but I'm not sure if I like his voice. A bit talky.

What have you started with? I find fewer things more comforting than Bill's baritone.

elainemonk wrote:Has anyone read his new book? I just ordered it.

Just started! It's very much in his 'voice', which I could not be more pleased with.


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Postby Cosmia on 26 Aug 2010, 09:47



Can't remember what I started with now. Any recommendations to begin with?


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Postby ell ess two on 08 Sep 2010, 20:53



Cosmia wrote:Can't remember what I started with now. Any recommendations to begin with?


Knock Knock, A River Ain't Too Much To Love, and Red Apple Falls, under his moniker Smog and are all good places to start. Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle is pretty faultless too.

If you enjoy early Oldham, Callahan should be a good fit too. :)


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Postby Weirdelves on 18 Sep 2010, 10:48



I've only listened to Dongs of Sevotion, and although I think he is a great lyricist I find his music really dull and uninspired and so don't really enjoy listening to Smog. Am I missing something or should I try a different album?


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Postby claire on 22 Sep 2010, 13:51



Weirdelves wrote:I've only listened to Dongs of Sevotion, and although I think he is a great lyricist I find his music really dull and uninspired and so don't really enjoy listening to Smog. Am I missing something or should I try a different album?


Dongs of Sevotion has some songs I really love on it, but as an album it's not my favorite. These are my top four:

A River Ain't Too Much To Love
Knock Knock
Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle
Supper


I think Supper is maybe his most underrated album. I hardly ever hear anybody mention it but it has some great songs on it, like "Morality," "A Guiding Light" and "Vessel in Vain."


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Postby ell ess two on 30 Sep 2010, 15:48



claire wrote:I think Supper is maybe his most underrated album. I hardly ever hear anybody mention it but it has some great songs on it, like "Morality," "A Guiding Light" and "Vessel in Vain."


"Our Anniversary" is perhaps Bill's most beautiful song. For all the focus on the ugliness and bitterness in his lyrics, he has written equally stunning, always witty and even sweet lyrics.


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Postby Jessie on 08 Dec 2010, 22:44



OK I've fallen in love with his voice. :luv: Which album should I buy?


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Postby claire on 09 Dec 2010, 22:40



Jessie wrote:OK I've fallen in love with his voice. :luv: Which album should I buy?


I always recommend "A River Ain't Too Much To Love" because it's my favorite (and Joanna plays piano on one of the songs!). His latest album "Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle" is really great too, and in some ways is a nice complement to Have One On Me because there are some songs about their breakup on it.


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Postby Rich on 14 Jan 2011, 03:38



I've signed up purely for this thread, although i may read some other stuff that keeps me hanging!

It's basically brilliant to read of some other Bill Callahan/Smog lovers - he's all i've listened to for the last 2 years and i've showed no signs of letting up. I don't know what connection i've found with his music, but there's something (despite how horrible he would probably find it to read this, based on interviews i've seen?).

I've also liked seeing supper get some recognition - 'Morality' is amazing, and 'Ambition' deserves so much more than it's got in my opinion, it's possibly my favourite 'album version' smog song there is (but to pick would be to difficult).

As for my favourites, i couldn't pick. Red apple falls was the first i listened to, and i still think it's genius; Blood Red Bird and Red Apples going so well together i could pass out.

I love 'limited capacity', 'It's rough' and 'Be Hit' from Wild love

infact, there's too many to go into now. I'd love to get hold of Bill, if anyone knew how?


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Postby claire on 05 Feb 2011, 00:52



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Postby ell ess two on 08 Mar 2011, 21:17



Anyone attend any of his recent readings? They've been a bit special. <3


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