¤ milky moon ¤

euh Pierre, it's exactly what you did and as a french it really made me uncomfortable.

I always assume Claire is both interested by JN music and taste in fashion, it doesn't make her a stalker. Maybe cos i'm a woman, and stick into fuckingly cheap stereotypes, but i really like what Claire (and the others contributors) made with the JN clothes threas. I'm sorry, but there is not so much news to feed ourselves to spit on people who kept the forum alive. I'm here now 3time per year cos i'm bored speaking about the same stuff for 5years, as everyone i crave for a new album, but it's unnecessary to judge Claire or the others in their way of "faniting", i regret to not have seen JN wedding dress, not to masturbate on her pic, but just cos i'm obsessed with frocks and froufrous.

And about the wish to not consider JN as a tabloid deny the fact that SHE IS a tabloid subject, nothing new except premiere, fashion show, fashion partnership etc, then a participation to a movie, re premiere etc....and the music is substancial there.

milkisobel wrote:euh Pierre, it's exactly what you did and as a french it really made me uncomfortable.

Maybe Claire and you felt it that way, but it's certainly NOT what I was trying to express. I don't feel responsible or guilty about how people react to what I try to say BUT I do apologise if you felt hurt or even uncomfortable about that. I'll just ask you not to speak for myself because I perfectly know what I say, allthough I'm aware that conversations on the internet can be submitted to misinterpretations.

but it's unnecessary to judge Claire or the others in their way of "faniting"

Again, I never did judge anyone about that if you read objectively what I said, which was it wasn't my way of dealing with an music artist's work. Of course, everyone has it's own way to deal with the same things, but I never felt the need to react in the same way others do. I really can feel interested in "frou-frous", frocks and fashion, but for a musical artist, I just feel it's irrelevant as long as I'm concerned, but I definitely understand other people might feel differently about that. Did I ever interfere in the JN dressing topic to criticize anyone? I just don't bother. Are you trying to tell me I should?

claire wrote:You do realize you just compared some people disagreeing with you on the internet to a terrorist attack?

I think there is a big misunderstanding between what we call freedom of speech we french and you americans. I don't think he compared you to terrorists. it 's a cultural difference on the concept of freedom. we french, determine everytime this concept in order of what is legitimate or not. we are not surround to the conception of good or evil which is very religious . there is no notion of morality in the french law. and on the other hand a channel like foxnews couldn't exist in France because they would be sued because of their lying on facts !

cos there is no lies and no manipulation in french tvs ? i don't want to insult your intelligence Nemo, so please, don't act like France is the country of speech freedom. I work in TV, i exactly know how it works during the editing process. And for what i remember of the french constitution there is notion of morality, in fact each point is based on a "good way of being". And affirm that french deal with freedom of speech with legitimacy only involves yourself, i certainly not agree with the idea that everyone can act like a moron just cos it's legitimate to open your mouth, but yes it's french, and maybe i'm not french enough to be part of it. But it's an other topic.
It was certainly a misunderstanding what Pierre said, and you can interfere with the frocks JN topic. But to explain myself one more time, i'll definitely stop deal with her closet when she'll stop acting like a jet set girl and release music. If she paint or do potery i'll be interested also. For now she mostly spend her full time wearing new expensive (nice) outfits.

j'ai jamais dit qu'il n' y avait aucunes manipulations. d'ailleurs la manipulation est le propre de l'homme. mais il n' y a pas de chaine mongoloide comme foxnews même tf1 dans ses pires heures n'y arrive pas

And for what i remember of the french constitution there is notion of morality, in fact each point is based on a "good way of being"

I talked about freedom of speech not the law about every acts. of course we can't kill someone what an evidence ! tu mélanges tout comme d'hab et tu t'excites pour rien. il y a une différence entre la morale , l'éthique ou la loi. révise tes classiques. et non il n' y a pas de morale religieuse dans la constitution française pas de stupide "in god we trust".

And affirm that french deal with freedom of speech with legitimacy only involves yourself, i certainly not agree with the idea that everyone can act like a moron just cos it's legitimate to open your mouth, but yes it's french

certainly not ! the law applies to you too. mis à part quelques maladresses ds ce qu'à dit Pierre et il s'en est excusé dans ce cas je ne vois pas en quoi le fait de donner son avis te fait agir comme un con. oui c'est vrai les français sont des salauds...quand on généralise on est toujours à deux doigts de la stupidité merci.

as for joanna I don't care about her extra activity neither it bothers me. I just did an aparté. c'est vrai moi je suis latin je ne range pas tout dans des petites boites avec discipline comme nos voisins teutons ... oh pardon je généralise

"je généralise comme d'hab" depuis quand me connais-tu si bien ?
tu sais ce qu'elle te dit la teutonne, elle t'emmerde. Je suis à deux doigts de la stupidité mais toi toujours en plein dans ton arrogance française de merde.
je ne répondrais pas à ton message, j'ai autre chose à foutre, mais juste un conseil évite de m'insulter encore une fois et de déformer mes propos. Parce que quand je parlais du con qui ouvre sa gueule je ne parlais pas de Pierre, mais d'une généralité, une fois n'est pas coutume hein.

Voilà pour l'aparté.

sorry i just overpassed my emotions. My soul is a temple, thanks to yoga and pills.

milkisobel wrote:"je généralise comme d'hab" depuis quand me connais-tu si bien ?
tu sais ce qu'elle te dit la teutonne, elle t'emmerde. Je suis à deux doigts de la stupidité mais toi toujours en plein dans ton arrogance française de merde.
je ne répondrais pas à ton message, j'ai autre chose à foutre, mais juste un conseil évite de m'insulter encore une fois et de déformer mes propos. Parce que quand je parlais du con qui ouvre sa gueule je ne parlais pas de Pierre, mais d'une généralité, une fois n'est pas coutume hein.

Voilà pour l'aparté.

I read this today omg you were really angry. I won't be indiscreet here but u know what I think of you I told u
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It's okay, Milki, most of couldn't understand it or be bothered to put it into Google.